Computer Q&A

[Cloud23465]

Ok... I'm getting tired of how warm my CPU gets when I'm running programs.
My CPU Idles at between 45*C and 50*C and gets between 60*C to 65*C at full load. I'm sure the fan that came with my HP is just a Stock Intel fan... What are my options? Is it possible to change it out with a different fan/ and or cooling system?

[Ran Hakubi]

I don't know about stock computers like HPs. I would assume that there is a way to buy a bigger fan.

I know on custom PC's, there are cases that keep the computer itself at close to freezing.

[Kwebs]

Ok... I'm getting tired of how warm my CPU gets when I'm running programs.
My CPU Idles at between 45*C and 50*C and gets between 60*C to 65*C at full load. I'm sure the fan that came with my HP is just a Stock Intel fan... What are my options? Is it possible to change it out with a different fan/ and or cooling system?

Cloud,
you'll need to look up what is available for your specific model. I worked on computers thats had a load of options and some with none.

[Cloud23465]

Ok... I'm getting tired of how warm my CPU gets when I'm running programs.
My CPU Idles at between 45*C and 50*C and gets between 60*C to 65*C at full load. I'm sure the fan that came with my HP is just a Stock Intel fan... What are my options? Is it possible to change it out with a different fan/ and or cooling system?

Cloud,
you'll need to look up what is available for your specific model. I worked on computers thats had a load of options and some with none.

The Stocket type is 775 and I see a whole new heat sink and fan setup that works All Intel Celeron (Socket 775) All Intel Pentium 4 (Socket 775) All Intel Pentium D All Intel Core 2 Duo Core 2 Extreme Quad

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186134

I don't know squat about brands but judging by the reviews... it's a good product.

[jeriddian]

Ok... I'm getting tired of how warm my CPU gets when I'm running programs.
My CPU Idles at between 45*C and 50*C and gets between 60*C to 65*C at full load. I'm sure the fan that came with my HP is just a Stock Intel fan... What are my options? Is it possible to change it out with a different fan/ and or cooling system?

Cloud,
you'll need to look up what is available for your specific model. I worked on computers thats had a load of options and some with none.

The Stocket type is 775 and I see a whole new heat sink and fan setup that works All Intel Celeron (Socket 775) All Intel Pentium 4 (Socket 775) All Intel Pentium D All Intel Core 2 Duo Core 2 Extreme Quad

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186134

I don't know squat about brands but judging by the reviews... it's a good product.

Socket 775's running a quad or duo core like you are doing are going to run very hot very quickly. Stock fans are not as good with these chips mostly as they do not fit onto the motherboard well with those little push-down pins, and because they do not make good enough contact with the thermal grease to adequately get rid of the heat. And if you continue to run your temperatures at 55 to 65 degrees, you're going to burn out your CPU a lot quicker than usual. It's too hot really. You will do better with a third party cooler, like Cooler Master or Thermallake, but it really should be one that has the bracer plate that goes onto the bottom of the mother board. You will have to take your motherboard out to install it, but using this brace on the back of the board and screwing the heat sink apparatus into the back brace gives you much better contact between the heat sink and the CPU, plus the grease they provide is fuller and better than what is supplied on the stock fan. Using this method also relieves a lot of stress on the motherboard itself from the pressure those push pins put on it to push the stock heat sink down on the CPU. The back plate takes all of that stress onto itself. You should be running temperatures of between 30 and 35 degrees, 40 at the very most.

[Cloud23465]

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...ctID=c00590499

There's the specs and a pic of my MB... I have no idea what I need to look for as far as knowing if what I'm looking for will fit and or work. You know jeriddian that i've never built a system and I know you have so what am I looking for here? Will I have to change the Bios have to be changed for the new cooling system?

[jeriddian]

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...ctID=c00590499

There's the specs and a pic of my MB... I have no idea what I need to look for as far as knowing if what I'm looking for will fit and or work. You know jeriddian that i've never built a system and I know you have so what am I looking for here? Will I have to change the Bios have to be changed for the new cooling system?

No prob, Cloud. I've built my own units for years now. You do not have to do anything to your BIOS at all. All you have to do is take out the motherboard and change the CPU cooler, then just put the motherboard back in. There are no software changes needed. Here's a link to the ones I found:

http://www.svc.com/775-cpu-cooler.html

The one I bought is the ASUS V-60 which is on the fourth row, right hand side. When you look at the pictures, you will see some of these have those measly push pin types. Those are the ones I would avoid. The most inexpensive ones I could find there are as follows:

Arctic Cooling's Alpine 7: Top row, center
The Cooler Master Vortex 752: sixth row, right
Cooler Master's RR-CCH-ANU2-GP GeminII Dual 120mm CPU Cooler: seventh row, center (But you have to add two 120mm fans to the unit for it to work.)

There are many others there to look at, but they tend to be more expensive. Just make sure the cooler is designed to fit Socket 775. In general you will notice the push pin types are cheaper. Also the ones with a lower fan rating of cubic feet per minute (CFM) tend to be cheaper. The more CFM, the cooler the CPU, although the design is important too. Just make sure that the unit you get has a retention bracket which goes on the bottom of the motherboard on which you can bolt the cooler. Also, make sure that you have enough thermal grease to provide heat transfer form the CPU to the heat sink. Almost all of these units come with the grease in a soft coating on the heat sink, but some don't (although they will provide separately as a rule), so just make sure you have the grease available if you do need it. Arctic Silver 5 thermal grease is good stuff if needed for that. Hope that helps.

[Cloud23465]

Ok... I took the Heatsink off... the processor and copper part had the grease is dried up and it doesn't seem to be to well applied. Processor
Heatsink
I'm guessing this heatsink is junk and Ill start looking for a replacement?

[Sir Sebastian]

One thing you could try before replacing the cooler, is to clean out the old grease and apply new grease (the stuff that's used to clean potentiometers and such is very good for the cleaning). The big mistake most people make, is they put on TOO MUCH. The purpose of the grease is NOT to transfer the heat from the CPU to the cooler plate, but to fill out those microscopic dents and such since it still conducts heat better than air that would otherwise fill those holes.

The optimal layer of grease is even and a bit translucent. And it does not matter which type you use, the differences between different greases is marginal if they have been applied correctly.

[Cloud23465]

I went and ordered a new heatsink and cooler for the CPU. This stock one just isn't going to cut it anymore. I remember how horrably hot it'd get in my room during the summer with this thing running. So warm sometimes i'd have to just turn it off so my room could cool down. If this works as good as I hope it will... I wont have to worry about how warm my rooms going to get with this puppy running.