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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    .... Ramen packets are pretty cheap foodstuffs, although I wouldn't suggest living solely on ramen if you can help it. ....
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    I'm not crying, but I am moving.

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    Sissies. Until you pay 1,4€ per liter (that's $8,35 per gallon), like we do, you have no reason to complain.
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    I drove by a station yesterday that had $2.69/gallon on the sign out front. :P

    Of course, the station has been out of business for several months. The windows are boarded up, and the pumps are gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Sebastian View Post
    Sissies. Until you pay 1,4€ per liter (that's $8,35 per gallon), like we do, you have no reason to complain.
    And you pay higher due to your country taxes the mess out of you on your gas.

    Source: Peter Ford | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

    On average, 60 percent of the price European drivers pay at the pump goes to their governments in taxes.

    In Britain, the government takes 75 percent, and raises taxes by 5 percent above inflation every year (though it has forgone this year's rise in view of rocketing oil prices, and the French government has promised tax rebates this year to taxi drivers, truckers, fishermen, and others who depend heavily on gasoline.) On August 8, for example, the price of gas in the US, without taxes, would be $2.17, instead of $2.56; in Britain, it would be $1.97, instead of $6.06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Sebastian View Post
    Sissies. Until you pay 1,4€ per liter (that's $8,35 per gallon), like we do, you have no reason to complain.
    True, Double 'S',

    But it's going to take some time to get used to it nonetheless. The US populace are a people who are far more mobile than the Europeans (plus we're bigger, size wise, so we have more territory to cover.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud23465 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Sebastian View Post
    Sissies. Until you pay 1,4€ per liter (that's $8,35 per gallon), like we do, you have no reason to complain.
    And you pay higher due to your country taxes the mess out of you on your gas.

    Source: Peter Ford | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

    On average, 60 percent of the price European drivers pay at the pump goes to their governments in taxes.

    In Britain, the government takes 75 percent, and raises taxes by 5 percent above inflation every year (though it has forgone this year's rise in view of rocketing oil prices, and the French government has promised tax rebates this year to taxi drivers, truckers, fishermen, and others who depend heavily on gasoline.) On August 8, for example, the price of gas in the US, without taxes, would be $2.17, instead of $2.56; in Britain, it would be $1.97, instead of $6.06.
    *Shrugs* They also have better health care, and wider government services. The people of Europe, at least, have realized that you must pay something to get something - if they're willing to pay high taxes in return for broad government services, then more power to them. 'Merica is still happily operating under the fatal delusion that you can have everything for nothing - low fuel, house, and product prices, while still expecting top-of-the-line treatment in Medicare, Social Security, national defense, and health care.

    We've finally been rudely awakened from our blithe cheap-fuel dream. Time to put our noses to the grindstone, scream and groan a little, and catch up with reality that is the rest of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireand'chutes77 View Post
    'Merica is still happily operating under the fatal delusion that you can have everything for nothing - low fuel, house, and product prices, while still expecting top-of-the-line treatment in Medicare, Social Security, national defense, and health care.
    Of course, others would argue that the real 'fatal delusion' is that the government can take care of everything, and do it better than the people can do for themselves.

    Those people need to be locked up and forcibly re-educated to believe in the Magic of HopeChange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by campy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fireand'chutes77 View Post
    'Merica is still happily operating under the fatal delusion that you can have everything for nothing - low fuel, house, and product prices, while still expecting top-of-the-line treatment in Medicare, Social Security, national defense, and health care.
    Of course, others would argue that the real 'fatal delusion' is that the government can take care of everything, and do it better than the people can do for themselves.

    Those people need to be locked up and forcibly re-educated to believe in the Magic of HopeChange.
    Sound's like the government hangs around disney land alot... when you wish on a star... LOL
    But the jokes on us because there too busy arguing about how to fix the problem and then nothing will ever happen/change...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireand'chutes77 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Sebastian View Post
    Sissies. Until you pay 1,4€ per liter (that's $8,35 per gallon), like we do, you have no reason to complain.
    And you pay higher due to your country taxes the mess out of you on your gas.

    Source: Peter Ford | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

    On average, 60 percent of the price European drivers pay at the pump goes to their governments in taxes.

    In Britain, the government takes 75 percent, and raises taxes by 5 percent above inflation every year (though it has forgone this year's rise in view of rocketing oil prices, and the French government has promised tax rebates this year to taxi drivers, truckers, fishermen, and others who depend heavily on gasoline.) On August 8, for example, the price of gas in the US, without taxes, would be $2.17, instead of $2.56; in Britain, it would be $1.97, instead of $6.06.
    *Shrugs* They also have better health care, and wider government services. The people of Europe, at least, have realized that you must pay something to get something - if they're willing to pay high taxes in return for broad government services, then more power to them. 'Merica is still happily operating under the fatal delusion that you can have everything for nothing - low fuel, house, and product prices, while still expecting top-of-the-line treatment in Medicare, Social Security, national defense, and health care.

    We've finally been rudely awakened from our blithe cheap-fuel dream. Time to put our noses to the grindstone, scream and groan a little, and catch up with reality that is the rest of the world.
    You hit the nail on the head there 'chutes. Europeans pay an average of about 40% to 60% of their earnings to their governments in return for those services. This is something they've been used to doing ever since WWI. They're used to it. At the same time, they don't have the cost of the extra mile America goes in handling world situations (It always seems to be us giving out the majority of the handouts, the subsidies, the assistances to other nations in need [though, really it's not that much out of our budget], plus the money we spend to keep our military up is definitely a lot more than any other nation spends [which definitely is a big part of our budget]).

    Nonetheless, there is the daunting task of asking the people to increase their tax rate tremendously from the range of 9% to 33% to a similar range to the Europeans in order to get those services......IF........you believe in going that direction, which in general is where the democrats want to go as they have no faith in the American business and financial communities to properly take care of business in a way that doesn't exploit the people of this country.

    The only problem is the one that always occurs when you put big government in charge of services of this nature. It becomes very wasteful, costing more for less service. That's simply the nature of government. It would be better, overall, to allow private enterprise to perform these services. Economically, a free enterprise system is more efficient. That is the strength of our economy. The weakness is that despite the advances against laissez-faire capitalism within our laws, there is the perception (which seems to unfortunately be true), that our business and financial community are not morally responsible enough to keep from exploiting the people to the point they actually harm the economy. Mostly this is due to inexcusable greed, though it is also true that some circumstances are out of their control.

    So you can go, in general, with the Democratic platform and raise taxes to institute these services, or you can go with the Republican platform and keep taxes down, and try to get the business and financial communities, and the entrepreneurs to solve the problems (if you trust them to do it right). Do keep in mind I am speaking in generalities here.
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