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    What are you currently reading? Volume 4:

    To start Volume 4:

    I bought a book for $5 at Barnes and Noble called The Gettysburg Address and other writings by Abraham Lincoln. It has a lot of the addresses, letters, and other writings of our 16th President. Certainly worth the price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeriddian View Post
    To start Volume 4:

    I bought a book for $5 at Barnes and Noble called The Gettysburg Address and other writings by Abraham Lincoln. It has a lot of the addresses, letters, and other writings of our 16th President. Certainly worth the price.
    $5?? I'll have to check my local B&N to see if I can locate a copy. Lincoln's my favorite U.S. President; and that sounds like a book I don't have about him.
    Thanks for the tip, jeriddian!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeriddian View Post
    To start Volume 4:

    I bought a book for $5 at Barnes and Noble called The Gettysburg Address and other writings by Abraham Lincoln. It has a lot of the addresses, letters, and other writings of our 16th President. Certainly worth the price.
    $5?? I'll have to check my local B&N to see if I can locate a copy. Lincoln's my favorite U.S. President; and that sounds like a book I don't have about him.
    Thanks for the tip, jeriddian!
    It was located in their discount area where they have the discounted books. You know they always have that section for that reason. Good luck on finding it.
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    I'm reading Whose Body?, a novel by Dorothy L. Sayers published in 1923. It's the first murder investigation for aristocratic sleuth Lord Peter Wimsey.

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    To start Volume 4:

    I bought a book for $5 at Barnes and Noble called The Gettysburg Address and other writings by Abraham Lincoln. It has a lot of the addresses, letters, and other writings of our 16th President. Certainly worth the price.
    $5?? I'll have to check my local B&N to see if I can locate a copy. Lincoln's my favorite U.S. President; and that sounds like a book I don't have about him.
    Thanks for the tip, jeriddian!
    It was located in their discount area where they have the discounted books. You know they always have that section for that reason. Good luck on finding it.
    Found it! It cost me $6.98 up here, but maybe things cost a little more in Illinois than they do in Texas. Nonetheless, I now own a copy. It'll make a fine addition to my collection of books on Lincoln (my favorite U.S. President).

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    I'm reading Joy in the Morning by P.G. Wodehouse. It's a 'Jeeves and Wooster' novel.

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    Kuehn's The General Board. It's an outgrowth of his PhD dissertation and discusses the impact of the General Board of the interwar years on the development and innovation that resulted in a war winning fleet in WWII.

    The board was a body of officers of the Navy and Marine Corps who molded the direction, composition and training of the force through their own analysis, as presented to the President, as well as oversight of the various bureaus of the Navy. It's intersting to compare how they coped with an environemnt of congressional penury and the isolationist movement and many present similar trends.

    One eye-opener in the discussion was the shattering of the long held myth, advanced by supporters of Billy Mitchell, that the Navy, particularly the upper leadership, was indifferent or hostile to air power. The reports and letters of the board almost constantly discuss the integration of carrier, land and sea based aviation into the fleet in both a strike role and for support functions and emphasise the need for more aircraft and aviation ships.

    An innovation of really profound significance was the development of the fleet train. The board concluded that in any major conflict existing shore establishments could not be relied on and that the Navy would require a mobile logistic and support system in order to project power. The armada of logistics ships (oilers, ammunition ships, supply vessels, generally) coupled with underway replenishment (a capacity the Soviets had little ability with until the late 1970s) permitted us to operate anywhere in the world, supplied from the United States. Additional service force vessels such as tenders and floating dry docks allowed the establishment of instant bases in any sheltered anchorage (see Ulithi Atoll for the pre-eminant example).

    Overall a good read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lunchmeat View Post
    Kuehn's The General Board. It's an outgrowth of his PhD dissertation and discusses the impact of the General Board of the interwar years on the development and innovation that resulted in a war winning fleet in WWII.

    The board was a body of officers of the Navy and Marine Corps who molded the direction, composition and training of the force through their own analysis, as presented to the President, as well as oversight of the various bureaus of the Navy. It's intersting to compare how they coped with an environemnt of congressional penury and the isolationist movement and many present similar trends.

    One eye-opener in the discussion was the shattering of the long held myth, advanced by supporters of Billy Mitchell, that the Navy, particularly the upper leadership, was indifferent or hostile to air power. The reports and letters of the board almost constantly discuss the integration of carrier, land and sea based aviation into the fleet in both a strike role and for support functions and emphasise the need for more aircraft and aviation ships.

    An innovation of really profound significance was the development of the fleet train. The board concluded that in any major conflict existing shore establishments could not be relied on and that the Navy would require a mobile logistic and support system in order to project power. The armada of logistics ships (oilers, ammunition ships, supply vessels, generally) coupled with underway replenishment (a capacity the Soviets had little ability with until the late 1970s) permitted us to operate anywhere in the world, supplied from the United States. Additional service force vessels such as tenders and floating dry docks allowed the establishment of instant bases in any sheltered anchorage (see Ulithi Atoll for the pre-eminant example).

    Overall a good read.
    As has been discussed in our forum before, it's logistics that made the difference for our Navy. It's the reason why we were able to defeat Japan in WWII; and why a Soviet invasion of the U.S. would have ultimately failed - they just didn't have our logistical capability. Cut off what supply lines they did have, and they'd have lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TransWarpDrive View Post
    Found it! It cost me $6.98 up here, but maybe things cost a little more in Illinois than they do in Texas. Nonetheless, I now own a copy. It'll make a fine addition to my collection of books on Lincoln (my favorite U.S. President).
    Glad you found it, TWD. I have a feeling the extra two dollars you paid might have been due to offset transportation costs, although I guess that depends on the original point of shipment to some degree. Alternatively, there may be some sort of Illinois tax that we don't have in Texas.....

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    Kuehn's The General Board. It's an outgrowth of his PhD dissertation and discusses the impact of the General Board of the interwar years on the development and innovation that resulted in a war winning fleet in WWII.

    The board was a body of officers of the Navy and Marine Corps who molded the direction, composition and training of the force through their own analysis, as presented to the President, as well as oversight of the various bureaus of the Navy. It's intersting to compare how they coped with an environemnt of congressional penury and the isolationist movement and many present similar trends.

    One eye-opener in the discussion was the shattering of the long held myth, advanced by supporters of Billy Mitchell, that the Navy, particularly the upper leadership, was indifferent or hostile to air power. The reports and letters of the board almost constantly discuss the integration of carrier, land and sea based aviation into the fleet in both a strike role and for support functions and emphasise the need for more aircraft and aviation ships.

    An innovation of really profound significance was the development of the fleet train. The board concluded that in any major conflict existing shore establishments could not be relied on and that the Navy would require a mobile logistic and support system in order to project power. The armada of logistics ships (oilers, ammunition ships, supply vessels, generally) coupled with underway replenishment (a capacity the Soviets had little ability with until the late 1970s) permitted us to operate anywhere in the world, supplied from the United States. Additional service force vessels such as tenders and floating dry docks allowed the establishment of instant bases in any sheltered anchorage (see Ulithi Atoll for the pre-eminant example).

    Overall a good read.
    As has been discussed in our forum before, it's logistics that made the difference for our Navy. It's the reason why we were able to defeat Japan in WWII; and why a Soviet invasion of the U.S. would have ultimately failed - they just didn't have our logistical capability. Cut off what supply lines they did have, and they'd have lost.
    This was true for all our armed forces, including the army and its Red Ball Express. As Yamamoto supposedly said, (citation not confirmed),

    "A military man can scarcely pride himself on having 'smitten a sleeping enemy'; it is more a matter of shame, simply, for the one smitten. I would rather you made your appraisal after seeing what the enemy does, since it is certain that, angered and outraged, he will soon launch a determined counterattack."

    In the 1970 film, "Tora! Tora! Tora!", James Shigeta played Admiral Yamamoto who said in his last line in the film,

    "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

    This of course sums up succinctly that ability of superior logistics that America has, although the Admiral himself never actually said those specific words. However, it was exactly what he meant when he was once asked what would be required for Japan to win the war, to which he replied, "to dictate terms in the White House". What he meant by this was that the only way for Japan to win was to literally conquer the entire United States through total invasion and occupation of the mainland, as he knew America would never surrender, and which he also knew was completely impossible to accomplish. Therefore his answer was actually meant to be somewhat sarcastic, as he had always advocated against going to war with the US in the first place saying Japan could not win such a war, and only did so when ordered by his superiors to come up with the inital attack plans on Pearl Harbor, which he did as a dutiful military man of his nation.

    In another example of our logistical superiority, the ability of American ship yards to turn out massive amounts of ships in record time in the 1939 to 1945 period was best represented by the fact that Adolf Hitler once was told that we achieved a record in producing one complete Liberty ship which weighed in at 14,474 tons, in only 4.5 days, to which the Führer replied, "We have lost the war".
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeriddian View Post




    ...In another example of our logistical superiority, the ability of American ship yards to turn out massive amounts of ships in record time in the 1939 to 1945 period was best represented by the fact that Adolf Hitler once was told that we achieved a record in producing one complete Liberty ship which weighed in at 14,474 tons, in only 4.5 days, to which the Führer replied, "We have lost the war".
    I read something similar. Hermann Goering, upon seeing P-51 Mustangs in the skies over Berlin, said that's when he knew that Germany had lost the war.

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