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    Oversexualization of fictional characters

    Okay, this topic really grinds my gears. I saw "that kind" of images of fictional characters like KP or Asuka from Evangelion (knowing Asuka, she'd probably feed a knuckle sandwich to anyone who draws her in that way), and I personally find those pictures disrespectful. Seriously now, why do people have this urges to draw fictional (often cartoon) characters with large breasts, naked, or in a provocative poses? Don't they realize that 90% percent of cartoon characters are younger than 18? And then they will protest when some art-related site removes their picture...seriously, is it so hard to think what you are posting?

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    Unfortunately, this kind of pornography - referred to as "cartoon porn," or simply "toon porn," has existed for decades. Even before the internet came along, folks were drawing pornographic pictures or comic strips about cartoon characters.
    Back in the mid-1970's, I was on a work weekend at my Scout council's summer camp when another boy showed me a dog-eared paperback book he'd brought with him. Titled "Tijuana's Sex Comics," it contained some badly-drawn comic stories featuring well-known characters like Popeye the Sailor and Batman and Robin, all engaging in some sort of sexual activity. Of course, those strips were unauthorized by those characters' creators, but that didn't stop whoever produced that book from publishing it!
    My point is: toon porn is nothing new. Some folks are so attracted to certain cartoon or comic characters, like Wonder Woman, for example, that they fantasize about them in an "adult" way. And those folks are most likely to draw porn based on those fantasies. I'm not condoning or defending that practice, now; I'm just attempting to explain the reasoning behind it.
    The best advice I can give you about toon porn is to ignore it if it's not your cup of tea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TransWarpDrive View Post
    Unfortunately, this kind of pornography - referred to as "cartoon porn," or simply "toon porn," has existed for decades. Even before the internet came along, folks were drawing pornographic pictures or comic strips about cartoon characters.
    Back in the mid-1970's, I was on a work weekend at my Scout council's summer camp when another boy showed me a dog-eared paperback book he'd brought with him. Titled "Tijuana's Sex Comics," it contained some badly-drawn comic stories featuring well-known characters like Popeye the Sailor and Batman and Robin, all engaging in some sort of sexual activity. Of course, those strips were unauthorized by those characters' creators, but that didn't stop whoever produced that book from publishing it!
    My point is: toon porn is nothing new. Some folks are so attracted to certain cartoon or comic characters, like Wonder Woman, for example, that they fantasize about them in an "adult" way. And those folks are most likely to draw porn based on those fantasies. I'm not condoning or defending that practice, now; I'm just attempting to explain the reasoning behind it.
    The best advice I can give you about toon porn is to ignore it if it's not your cup of tea.
    I know, but thankfully* the porn is becoming more and more unacceptable in the modern society (Great Britain plans to ban porn sites for example). Even if those pictures are not my cup of tea, I constantly see journals on dA where people whine about how their pictures got removed from dA or how their Blogspot account is closed because they posted "adult" images there, and how the characters depicted were "aged up a bit" .

    *Porn can ruin lives, and I'm the proof for this statement. I can't sleep with a girl because that "act" is disgusting to me, and all because my classmate forced me to look at pictures in an adult magazine while threatening he'll bust my face in if I don't comply (I was only 11 at that time).

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    Re: Oversexualization of fictional characters

    Quote Originally Posted by hrodwulf123 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TransWarpDrive View Post
    Unfortunately, this kind of pornography - referred to as "cartoon porn," or simply "toon porn," has existed for decades. Even before the internet came along, folks were drawing pornographic pictures or comic strips about cartoon characters.
    Back in the mid-1970's, I was on a work weekend at my Scout council's summer camp when another boy showed me a dog-eared paperback book he'd brought with him. Titled "Tijuana's Sex Comics," it contained some badly-drawn comic stories featuring well-known characters like Popeye the Sailor and Batman and Robin, all engaging in some sort of sexual activity. Of course, those strips were unauthorized by those characters' creators, but that didn't stop whoever produced that book from publishing it!
    My point is: toon porn is nothing new. Some folks are so attracted to certain cartoon or comic characters, like Wonder Woman, for example, that they fantasize about them in an "adult" way. And those folks are most likely to draw porn based on those fantasies. I'm not condoning or defending that practice, now; I'm just attempting to explain the reasoning behind it.
    The best advice I can give you about toon porn is to ignore it if it's not your cup of tea.
    I know, but thankfully* the porn is becoming more and more unacceptable in the modern society (Great Britain plans to ban porn sites for example). Even if those pictures are not my cup of tea, I constantly see journals on dA where people whine about how their pictures got removed from dA or how their Blogspot account is closed because they posted "adult" images there, and how the characters depicted were "aged up a bit" .

    *Porn can ruin lives, and I'm the proof for this statement. I can't sleep with a girl because that "act" is disgusting to me, and all because my classmate forced me to look at pictures in an adult magazine while threatening he'll bust my face in if I don't comply (I was only 11 at that time).
    I'm sorry to hear about that, hrodwulf. Had you reported that bully to an adult in authority (teacher, parent; someone like that), they might have been able to put a stop to his cruelty. What that kid did to you was a form of abuse, and from your post, I see it's still affecting you as an adult. Is there some sort of psychological counseling available where you live? Because that may be able to help you overcome your aversion to physical intimacy with women. There's all sorts of programs like that available here in the States, and it's proven to be quite effective in dealing with such traumas.
    I hope you're able to get some sort of help, because it really can make a difference. Take it from me - I know. I received psychological counseling for a number of emotional issues back in the mid-80's, and it helped me tremendously. I feel I'm a better person - a little stronger emotionally - for having sought counseling and gotten it. Someone once said, "A good therapist can work wonders!" I agree with that statement 100%.
    So see what sort of help you can get - it might be what you need to heal that emotional wound.
    Good luck!

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    I did, I talked to the school's pedagogue and the principal, but they didn't give a flying f**k about me or my problems.
    All that was left untreated, and it left deep traces in me.

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    Wolfie, your culture in Croatia is different than it is here in the United States, and it may be that approaching or discussing issues regarding sex is far more taboo for your people as a rule than it would be here, especially if you are located in a more rural setting, and this may account for the response you received from your school's pedagogue and principal, who very well may have been totally unprepared to handle your problem, thus their response. Please understand that I say your culture is different, not inferior. It would seem religion is more influential in your part of the world than it is here in the United States, and that can often result in an aversion to discussion of sexual matters or in education and help for people who may have problems in that area. So it may be that the authorities you approached truly have no idea how to help you, not that they don't want to do so. Your only option may be to find a university based medical or psychological facility where they actually are educated in this particular field and which could help you.
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    Re: Oversexualization of fictional characters

    Quote Originally Posted by jeriddian View Post
    Wolfie, your culture in Croatia is different than it is here in the United States, and it may be that approaching or discussing issues regarding sex is far more taboo for your people as a rule than it would be here, especially if you are located in a more rural setting, and this may account for the response you received from your school's pedagogue and principal, who very well may have been totally unprepared to handle your problem, thus their response. Please understand that I say your culture is different, not inferior. It would seem religion is more influential in your part of the world than it is here in the United States, and that can often result in an aversion to discussion of sexual matters or in education and help for people who may have problems in that area. So it may be that the authorities you approached truly have no idea how to help you, not that they don't want to do so. Your only option may be to find a university based medical or psychological facility where they actually are educated in this particular field and which could help you.
    No, I'm not in a rural setting, I'm actually in the capital itself. You see, the religion has little to nothing to do with how people perceive sexual matters here...it's pretty hard for someone like me, because sex equals love here, and our society here "thinks" that if you don't like sex, then there's something wrong with you. Well, as the years progressed I learned that the school authorities never helped anyone.

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    Re: Oversexualization of fictional characters

    Quote Originally Posted by hrodwulf123 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jeriddian View Post
    Wolfie, your culture in Croatia is different than it is here in the United States, and it may be that approaching or discussing issues regarding sex is far more taboo for your people as a rule than it would be here, especially if you are located in a more rural setting, and this may account for the response you received from your school's pedagogue and principal, who very well may have been totally unprepared to handle your problem, thus their response. Please understand that I say your culture is different, not inferior. It would seem religion is more influential in your part of the world than it is here in the United States, and that can often result in an aversion to discussion of sexual matters or in education and help for people who may have problems in that area. So it may be that the authorities you approached truly have no idea how to help you, not that they don't want to do so. Your only option may be to find a university based medical or psychological facility where they actually are educated in this particular field and which could help you.
    No, I'm not in a rural setting, I'm actually in the capital itself. You see, the religion has little to nothing to do with how people perceive sexual matters here...it's pretty hard for someone like me, because sex equals love here, and our society here "thinks" that if you don't like sex, then there's something wrong with you. Well, as the years progressed I learned that the school authorities never helped anyone.
    Sounds to me like there's something wrong with your society if they think that way about folks who don't like sex. Ofttimes society at large has upheld misconceptions about things like sex and relationships as "conventional wisdom" - in other words, they continue to cling to those misguided attitudes because "that's the way it's always been." It isn't until someone has the courage to look at the problem from a fresh angle that a society as a whole changes its views on some things.
    I agree with jeriddian when he says your best hope of dealing with this problem is to seek out a doctor or doctors in a university who specialize in these things. They, more than anyone else, can probably help you resolve this issue once and for all.

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    Re: Oversexualization of fictional characters

    Quote Originally Posted by hrodwulf123 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jeriddian View Post
    Wolfie, your culture in Croatia is different than it is here in the United States, and it may be that approaching or discussing issues regarding sex is far more taboo for your people as a rule than it would be here, especially if you are located in a more rural setting, and this may account for the response you received from your school's pedagogue and principal, who very well may have been totally unprepared to handle your problem, thus their response. Please understand that I say your culture is different, not inferior. It would seem religion is more influential in your part of the world than it is here in the United States, and that can often result in an aversion to discussion of sexual matters or in education and help for people who may have problems in that area. So it may be that the authorities you approached truly have no idea how to help you, not that they don't want to do so. Your only option may be to find a university based medical or psychological facility where they actually are educated in this particular field and which could help you.
    No, I'm not in a rural setting, I'm actually in the capital itself. You see, the religion has little to nothing to do with how people perceive sexual matters here...it's pretty hard for someone like me, because sex equals love here, and our society here "thinks" that if you don't like sex, then there's something wrong with you. Well, as the years progressed I learned that the school authorities never helped anyone.
    Hrodwulf, I realize that many people who live in places outside the US seem to think that we Americans are pretty much a free-wheeling hedonistic promiscuous bunch, but I can assure you that nothing is further from the truth. That image comes from distorted news images which do not accurately portray who we are. While I grant that our society seems to be (and often is, I admit) more liberal about things like sex and marriage, we're really not that different from people around the world. For the most part, sex and love go together here too. I should point out also that sex does not ever equal love, but instead sex should be an expression of love. But it must be remembered that sex is sometimes just that, sex. It is no different in your country than it is here as that is basic human nature. I also disagree when your say religion has nothing to do with it. Virtually every sexual more society invents is initially developed from religion in some way, regardless of which religion. The effect can be subtle and far reaching, but it is nonetheless so. If I am not mistaken, the vast majority of your people are Roman Catholics (86%), with minorities in Eastern Orthodoxy, Islam, and Protestantism. However, your society outside of religion may also have an effect, I must say. It is, after all, far older than American society, and your customs are older. This may present a stronger barrier to overcoming your problem, and sometimes it may be necessary to look for help elsewhere than the traditional avenues such as clergy or teachers, again because these resources are not equipped to handle it. I would also like to propose the idea that your statement about not liking sex is incorrect. I believe it is not really true, and that is what you have to overcome with the proper help. There is nothing "wrong" with you. You just have a problem which needs addressing, that's all. This is a very delicate subject for most people. I am answering you here on the forum publicly as you did volunteer discussing the issue here, but if you wish to continue to discuss this by PM with any of us, you may do so.
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    You misunderstood me. I never said anything about Americans, I was just telling you how things are here.

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